Are you looking for the best Ideal combi boiler for your average sized family home or apartment?
If so, you may have already been looking at the Ideal Logic C30 combi and the Ideal Logic+ C30. But hang on a minute: what’s the difference?
To be honest, there’s not a lot of difference between these two boilers, and comparing the two tends to get a bit confusing for my customers. With that in mind, I thought I’d put together this blog post to give you a better idea of which might be right for you.
Introduction
You may already be familiar with the name ‘Ideal’. It’s one of those good old British boiler manufacturers that are still alive and kicking today. And right now, they’re offering great value deals on their boilers, with fantastic, no-quibble guarantees.
Because of this, they are becoming increasingly popular with my customers – and across the UK! Along with Baxi, Ideal have actually gained the most ground in the marketplace in 2016. So, if you’re looking for a good value combi boiler, Ideal is a good brand to start with.
However, when it comes to the Logic C30 and the Logic+ C30, it can start to get a little confusing. After all, these are both award-winning boilers, with the same outputs and the same look. What’s the difference? Well, the differences are minor, but the one you pick could make a big impact in terms of the value you’re getting.
Output and flow rates
Both the Logic 30C and the Logic+ C30 provide an output of 24.2kW to the central heating, which is perfect for heating an average 3-bedroom home – or a 2-bedroom flat with high ceilings. They can happily heat 8 – 12 radiators (depending on size), but around 10 on average.
When it comes to the hot water output, you’ll find both of these combi boilers can easily run a bath or shower at 12.4 litres per minute. They won’t take a forever to fill a bath, but if you’re looking for a better flow rate, there’s always the option to switch up to the C35.
Size and special features
Both of these boilers measure in at 700mm x 395mm x 278mm, which means they’re actually very compact – yet another advantage the C30 has against its Worcester Bosch and Baxi equivalents. Because they’re so compact, they can easily be fitted into a standard-sized kitchen cupboard! A fantastic choice if you want to make the most of the extra space in your home.
Both of these boilers also come with an easy-to-read pressure gauge, a low lift weight, and built-in frost protection. The Logic+ seems to have a slightly bigger user display.
Guarantee
This is where things start to differentiate quite a bit. The Ideal Logic C30 comes with a standard 2-year guarantee – no special deal for accredited installers. But for only £70 more, you could get the Ideal Logic+ 30C, with comes with a 7-year guarantee as standard.
However, there’s another another big benefit to the Logic+ C30. With the right accredited installer, you could get a 10-year no-quibble guarantee – with no need to install the brand’s own controls or filter! This is a great value deal, so check whether your accredited installer can offer it to you.
TIP: Ideal also have their own dedicated engineers for call-outs, so your new combi will always be in good hands! (And they won’t charge your credit card)
At a glance
Want to see the differences between these boilers at a glance? That I can do.
Below, you’ll find a brief summary of the technical specifications you can enjoy with a new Ideal Logic C30 combi:
- Heating output: 24.2kW
- Hot water output: 30kW, 12.4 litres per minute at 35 degrees Celsius
- Ideal for: Average 3-bedroom home (or 2-bedroom flat with high ceilings)
- Guarantee: 2 years
- Size: 700mm x 395mm x 278mm
- ERP rating: A, 89.6% efficiency
And now, let’s see what you can get if you spend £70 more on an Ideal Logic+ C30:
- Heating output: 24.2kW
- Hot water output: 30kW, 12.4 litres per minute at 35 degrees Celsius
- Ideal for: Average 3-bedroom home (or 2-bedroom flat with high ceilings)
- Guarantee: 7 years (or 10 years with some accredited installers*)
- Size: 700mm x 395mm x 278mm
- ERP rating: A, 89.6% efficiency
*Always check with your chosen accredited installer about whether they’ll be able to offer this deal.
Advice from an experienced engineer
I’ve personally fitted both of these boilers, and I can’t really see a difference. The only time we’ve ever fitted a Logic C30 was when a letting agent told us that if we could do a job for £100, it was ours. At the time, I thought it was insane to be fitting the C30 just for the sake of saving £100, but the job was very budget-sensitive.
For this reason, I can see why some builders may choose to fit these in extensions, as it saves them a bit of money. However, it just makes no sense to go for a boiler with a 2-year guarantee, when you can pay around £70 extra and get up to an extra 8 years!
Conclusion
I hope you’ve found this blog helpful when comparing the Ideal Logic C30 to the Ideal Logic+ C30. I know it can be very hard to tell the difference, but I’d always recommend choosing the Logic+ C30 any day, because at the very least you’ll get an extra five years’ guarantee – or even an extra 8 with the right installer!
Got any more questions about the Logic and Logic+ ranges? Feel free to leave me a question in the comments – I’m here to help!
